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    Post by Nero Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:36 pm

    Hello.
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    Post by Dino Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:50 pm

    Zero wrote:lol doesn't matter what track is picked top 5 is very advantageous

    nevertheless nice win flow

    oh yes because starting top 5 on luigi circuit will end in a top 5 regardless Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Bambi Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:24 pm

    Dino wrote:
    Zero wrote:lol doesn't matter what track is picked top 5 is very advantageous

    nevertheless nice win flow

    oh yes because starting top 5 on luigi circuit will end in a top 5 regardless Rolling Eyes

    Should've used Mario Raceway, a far better example. Luigi Circuit is a damn good front running track if the other team doesn't dodge, and even so, it's still a good front running track. As for starting Top 5, that is okay, teams take far too long to join the rooms so to hold opening the room just so they're willing to join would be obnoxious.
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    Post by Brolyl Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:25 pm

    NICE WIN FLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT 2ND HALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (just going with the flow) Smile
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    Post by Zero Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:55 pm

    Dino wrote:
    Zero wrote:lol doesn't matter what track is picked top 5 is very advantageous

    nevertheless nice win flow

    oh yes because starting top 5 on luigi circuit will end in a top 5 regardless Rolling Eyes

    When did I say anything like that? I said it was advantageous, because it is. On most courses top 5 can take nearly all of the first items, making the other team either fall behind more or be left defenseless against what will likely be at least 1 set of triple shells or something. I'm not saying it guarantees anything because of tracks like LC or rMR, but even then two or three people could drop back from the top 5 and bag while the other two or three frontrun. Don't put words into my mouth.
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    Post by Trevor Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:06 pm

    Then don't open your mouth at all.
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    Post by flc Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:14 pm

    Zero wrote:making the other team either fall behind more or be left defenseless against what will likely be at least 1 set of triple shells or something.

    only way top 5 is getting a breakaway is if 4th or 5th get bombs/trip reds, which is unlikely. in fact, because the bottom 5 get uncontested power item control (unless one of the top 5 drops back, in which case the fact that they start top 5 becomes irrelevant), they are far more likely to gain positions back on tracks with shortcuts or good dodge spots (i.e. most of them). 4th and 5th only get access to one item that significantly increases their speed (trip shrooms) and two that slightly increase it (mega and single shroom), so even if the first boxes are denied, the second and third set almost certainly won't be and then the team with bot 5 gets the bill and goldens and a head start in the trolling/bagging race.

    furthermore, there are only four tracks where a top 5 start is advantageous: wgm, tf, rr and dkm. unless flow picked those tracks to start each gp (and I doubt they did), ar2 has nothing to complain about. no, gv2 and yf are not good for top 5 or even anything more than top 3 for that matter. both of them are very good dodge tracks, yf has no good trap spots against competent racers and gv2's target shock is probably the best in the game (note: strongest =/= best).

    if the score was more like 371-361 then perhaps ar2 could have a leg to stand on, but since it wasn't, flow's win is just as legit as it would have been if the positions were reversed.
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    Post by lugia Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:32 pm

    hmm no trolling... won by only 30. seems about right.
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    Post by Bounty Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:43 pm

    Are you upset?
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    Post by flc Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:48 pm

    what happened to cb

    they used to be chill, now they're butthurt over a loss or something?
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    Post by Zoan Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:16 am

    flc wrote:
    Zero wrote:making the other team either fall behind more or be left defenseless against what will likely be at least 1 set of triple shells or something.

    only way top 5 is getting a breakaway is if 4th or 5th get bombs/trip reds, which is unlikely. in fact, because the bottom 5 get uncontested power item control (unless one of the top 5 drops back, in which case the fact that they start top 5 becomes irrelevant), they are far more likely to gain positions back on tracks with shortcuts or good dodge spots (i.e. most of them). 4th and 5th only get access to one item that significantly increases their speed (trip shrooms) and two that slightly increase it (mega and single shroom), so even if the first boxes are denied, the second and third set almost certainly won't be and then the team with bot 5 gets the bill and goldens and a head start in the trolling/bagging race.

    furthermore, there are only four tracks where a top 5 start is advantageous: wgm, tf, rr and dkm. unless flow picked those tracks to start each gp (and I doubt they did), ar2 has nothing to complain about. no, gv2 and yf are not good for top 5 or even anything more than top 3 for that matter. both of them are very good dodge tracks, yf has no good trap spots against competent racers and gv2's target shock is probably the best in the game (note: strongest =/= best).

    if the score was more like 371-361 then perhaps ar2 could have a leg to stand on, but since it wasn't, flow's win is just as legit as it would have been if the positions were reversed.

    Omg did you already play a war ?
    Obviously starting in top5 is is adventageous, top2/3 can frontrun and 2/3 others wait to dont let best items to the other team, and it's harder then for that team to pass in good positions, (after others things can influence the race but I'm just saying you have more chance to win the race by starting in top5). And it's not like we took age to join the room, as I said 4 of us tried to join the room at the moment they opened.
    Also, if we wanted to get the win, I think we could do it because Flow didnt even wait before starting GP3, so I wasnt ready I wanted to switch from Funky to Daisy.
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    Post by MelwesT Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:50 am

    Noobs.
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    Post by Bounty Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:00 am

    Congratulations, you just broke my bitching meter.
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    Post by flc Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:07 am

    Zoan wrote:Omg did you already play a war ?
    Obviously starting in top5 is is adventageous, top2/3 can frontrun and 2/3 others wait to dont let best items to the other team, and it's harder then for that team to pass in good positions, (after others things can influence the race but I'm just saying you have more chance to win the race by starting in top5). And it's not like we took age to join the room, as I said 4 of us tried to join the room at the moment they opened.

    all of what you are saying is only further proving my point: top 5 in the room is almost entirely pointless. you may as well complain every time that the other team gets top 2-3 in the room plus 7 & 8 (which happens in most wars).

    perhaps I should tell the clans that imperious loses to that we are not happy with the loss because the other team had top 3 in the room
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    Post by Stevens94 Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:11 am

    Zoan wrote:Omg did you already play a war ?
    Obviously starting in top5 is is adventageous, top2/3 can frontrun and 2/3 others wait to dont let best items to the other team, and it's harder then for that team to pass in good positions, (after others things can influence the race but I'm just saying you have more chance to win the race by starting in top5). And it's not like we took age to join the room, as I said 4 of us tried to join the room at the moment they opened.
    Also, if we wanted to get the win, I think we could do it because Flow didnt even wait before starting GP3, so I wasnt ready I wanted to switch from Funky to Daisy.
    lol..
    The excuses just keep on coming, don't they Zoan? I know you must not like losing, but pulling excuses out of your ass like this is getting kinda silly. As I said to you last time, just forget about this war.
    And look forward to next season in #d2.
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    Post by Negens Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:19 am


    perhaps I should tell the clans that imperious loses to that we are not happy with the loss because the other team had top 3 in the room

    That's too bad, W10 kc vs iM was iM turn to host and you did so your argument is invalid Sad
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    Post by Arpegio Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:33 pm

    New rule suggestion for season 4 : both teams must enter the room alternately. Wait your turn ! Laughing
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    Post by Trevor Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:32 pm

    I love you Arpe.
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    Post by weepers leave japes. Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:47 pm

    YALL SETTLE DOWN.
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    Post by Evoker Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:41 pm

    Arpegio wrote:New rule suggestion for season 4 : both teams must enter the room alternately. Wait your turn ! Laughing

    Yall ready for 3 hours wars because of people failing to join in the proper positions? Twisted Evil
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    Post by Clément Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:54 pm

    GG's Flow.



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    Post by Zero Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:49 pm

    All I said was top 5 in room was advantageous and ya'll gotta flip the fuck out on me, chill yo!!!
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    Post by Shwam Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:56 pm

    zoan ʕ ·ᴥ·ʔ
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    Post by Arpegio Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:07 pm

    Evoker wrote:
    Arpegio wrote:New rule suggestion for season 4 : both teams must enter the room alternately. Wait your turn ! Laughing

    Yall ready for 3 hours wars because of people failing to join in the proper positions? Twisted Evil
    That's why we will also vote for who should enter the room before the other ! Twisted Evil
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    Post by lugia Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:16 pm

    cB is still the same from how it was b4. we arent butthurt from a loss xD chill everyone

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