[W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

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    [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Luigirocks123 on Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:53 pm

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    GGs Hc.

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    Kuzan 115 points - Not abiding by conditionals properly
    Chucks 74 points - Using textures that are advantageous
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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Vettel on Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:55 pm

    Nice I guess
    seemed like a much closer war than i thought before
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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Bounty on Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:55 pm

    I'll look at this later, a penalty may occur with the evidence that was brought up.


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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Feysal on Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:59 pm

    Kuzan did his stream start up, Charlie sent the stream link to jip, but now hes probably denying that he was watching it.
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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Philip on Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:00 pm

    I watched the start-up stream too, and it didn't show anything.
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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Larrsauce on Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:10 pm

    [8:59:00 AM] Chucks ηηD: Hi xjippyz! I’d like to add you on Skype. Chucks ηηD
    [1:59:47 PM] Jip: Jip has shared contact details with Chucks ηηD.
    [2:13:30 PM] Jip: dont see kuzans conditional
    [2:13:38 PM] Jip: the link doesn't show anything
    [2:13:43 PM] Jip: thers nothing saved on his channel
    [2:13:45 PM] Jip: and he's offline
    [2:13:49 PM] Chucks ηηD: i'll check
    [2:13:55 PM] Chucks ηηD: think hes doing it now
    [2:14:20 PM] Jip: obviously not
    [2:14:36 PM] Jip: send me stream link
    [2:14:39 PM] Jip: and get him to do it
    [2:14:42 PM] Jip: or sub him out
    [2:15:00 PM] Chucks ηηD: [2:06 PM] Kuzan:

    <<< [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
    [2:15:38 PM] Jip: it shows a stream from 3 months ago
    [2:16:01 PM] Chucks ηηD: lol wow
    [2:16:13 PM] Chucks ηηD: i dont think he has done it yet
    [2:16:16 PM] Jip: sub him out
    [2:16:22 PM] Jip: cause this will take forever
    [2:16:29 PM] Chucks ηηD: no
    [2:16:44 PM] Jip: (o) 10 minutes
    [2:18:13 PM] Jip: [2:15 PM] ChE Travis:

    <<< make sure he uses a camera or something and turns off wii and reloads it show no sd card[2:15 PM] ChE Travis:

    <<< so showing there's no sd card in when he turns wii off
    [2:18:45 PM] Chucks ηηD: if he is streaming then surely you can see the full war...
    [2:18:46 PM] Jip: is he streaming yet
    [2:18:55 PM] Jip: i have to verify it
    [2:19:36 PM] Jip: incanse something happens
    [2:19:40 PM] Jip: and i haven't seen any of it
    [2:19:46 PM] Jip: link to his stream
    [2:19:46 PM] Chucks ηηD: he is streaming
    [2:19:56 PM] Jip: are you retarded?
    [2:20:08 PM] Chucks ηηD: watch his stream
    [2:20:42 PM] Jip: you haven't given me a fucking working link retard
    [2:20:50 PM] Jip: and I need to watch it from his startup or else it defeats the purprose
    [2:20:59 PM] Chucks ηηD: [2:06 PM] Kuzan:

    <<< [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
    [2:21:05 PM] Chucks ηηD: he is streaming now
    [2:21:08 PM] Chucks ηηD: on that link
    [2:21:16 PM] Jip: ok I haven't seen his startup
    [2:21:16 PM] Chucks ηηD: the question is are u retarded?
    [2:21:28 PM] Jip: whats the point of conditionals if I can't see his startup
    [2:21:56 PM] Jip: ill tell you when im ready
    [2:22:01 PM] Jip: he has to redo it
    [2:22:10 PM] Chucks ηηD: you can see his stream!
    [2:22:19 PM] Jip: I HAVEN TSEE HIS STARTUp
    [2:22:31 PM] Jip: THERES NO POINT TO CONDITIONAL
    [2:22:32 PM] Chucks ηηD: hes streaming the war
    [2:22:37 PM] Jip: THAT DOESNT MATTER
    [2:22:44 PM] Jip: YOU CAN GURU WHILE STREAMING
    [2:22:49 PM] Jip: IF YOU DONT SHOW YOUR STARTUP
    [2:23:27 PM] Jip: If he doesn't redo his startup then he loses all of his points
    [2:23:36 PM] Jip: No one from our team, has seen his conditional yet
    [2:24:35 PM] Jip: [2:24 PM] ChE Travis:

    <<< [2:23 PM] NFO Boshi:

    <<< if no one can confirm it, he has to do it again
    [2:24:46 PM] Jip: No one can confirm it
    [2:24:48 PM] Chucks ηηD: watch now
    [2:24:53 PM] Chucks ηηD: hes doing it
    [2:25:11 PM] Jip: im not ready
    [2:25:15 PM] Jip: tell him to restart his wii
    [2:25:17 PM] Jip: and do it now
    [2:25:23 PM] Jip: you have to show it from wii startup
    [2:25:24 PM] Chucks ηηD: he just did omfg
    [2:25:26 PM] Jip: showing no sd card
    [2:25:28 PM] Chucks ηηD: he is
    [2:25:30 PM] Jip: i wasn't ready
    [2:25:31 PM] Jip: are you dumb
    [2:25:38 PM | Edited 2:25:43 PM] Chucks ηηD: your fault
    [2:25:40 PM] Jip: no
    [2:25:44 PM] Jip: im not confirming it thten
    [2:25:48 PM] Jip: fe=el free to start
    [2:25:58 PM] Chucks ηηD: he has proof on his stream so yeah
    [2:26:34 PM] Jip: ok well when he saves it
    [2:26:37 PM] Jip: give me the lin
    [2:26:44 PM] Jip: k and ill review from when he streamas
    [2:26:46 PM] Chucks ηηD: ok



    come again? ggs nonetheless fun war even though i fucked up my 100 gp three


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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Bounty on Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:14 pm

    I know this thread is going to just flood, so going to lock it now. I have many things I will need to look at before making a decision.

    I'll post the verdict once I feel comfortable with one I come up with.


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    Re: [W6] Nitro Nation Dashers 166-335 Hydro Cannon

    Post by Bounty on Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:23 pm

    All right.

    First off with addition to what Jip posted above the stream was given to me by nnD after the war.

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    XIV. Conditional participation

    a. Players must use a hand-held camera of some sort (e.g: a camera phone, webcam, or iPod) for streaming or recording their startup. Recordings must also always be done while holding it with at least one hand and not resting the phone against any surface.
    b. If opponents request it, conditional players must record or stream the restarting of their Wii twice while showing the SD Card slot empty on the Wii. After the restarts, the recording/stream must be including the Wii menu, disc channel, game loading sequence, and themselves joining the room in one unedited sequence. This must be done before the commencement of any room and upon joining a room following a disconnection unless the opponent does not require it.
    c. Should players use any non-official/3rd party disc loader that requires the use of their SD Card, they must do one of the following in order to fulfill their requirements for conditional participation.
    c.i. Said players may record and/or stream with their hand-held camera the loading of their non-official/3rd party disc loader with the SD Card slot full in the Wii. Once done, they can show the removal of the SD Card and then show any options for ocarina set as OFF. They must then proceed with the rest of the normal recording/streaming rules all the way up until they join the room and when the room begins.
    c.ii. Said players may record and/or stream with their capture card the loading of their non-official/3rd party disc loaders with the Ocarina option set to ON. Afterwards, an error message of some sort should come up saying that codes were not found on the SD card and should proceed normally with the rest of the rules of conditional participation applying up until they join the room and the room begins.
    d. Players on conditional participation must, at the very least, ask the opposition whether they care to see them stream start-up or not.
    e. Players must record, upload and share links to their entire game play within the result thread no later than 72hrs after a wars completion and keep their videos uploaded for a minimum of 2 weeks, unless proof is presented to support that rules a. / b. / c. were followed.

    So Hc not seeing it was a problem but that can sometimes be overlooked. However, the conditional stream was given: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] does not follow the conditional rules. All it is him starting from his wii menu, not start up and loading the game not checking SD cards (When ones in the system as you can tell from the blue SD symbol) and not using a handheld recording device.

    Hc made is clear what they wanted to see (although I wish it was in a more polite manner) so Kuzan's points will not count due to failing to meet the conditional requirements.

    I wish that was all, but there's more. Hc always provided me with a GP picture showing that a member from nnD was using textures throughout the war.

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    XIII. Texture hacks, model hacks & custom tracks

    a. Players must not use any course or ,item texture hacks, model hacks, or custom tracks or any other game modification(s) that may be considered to be an unfair advantage.

    It it shows here:
    nnD Chucks' picture:
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    Hc Jip's picture:
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    This clearly shows that Chuck's had textures on during the war and I do consider track textures to be a potential advantage to the individual using them so his points will also have to removed.

    Make sure you guys read the rules more clearly next time as I believe I went over everything in the my introduction post as well about these topics.

    I don't like to take away points but it's my job.

    Final score is Hc 335 - 166 nnD


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